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    Thucydides Speech Analysis

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    American people, particularly at this stage in the election cycle. Those of us living in the postmodern age, however, tend to fall into the highly fallacious mindset wherein democracy is thought of as being an invention of the recent age, and an idea about which we can learn very little by appealing to the ancient world which is so rife with stories of empires and conquests. It is Thucydides, however, who really begins to explore and relate back to us the relationship of democracy and empire. At the epicenter of this controversy is an Athenian statesman and demagogue by the name of Cleon, who seems to argue that democracy is bad for empire. Opinions on Cleon vary wildly, especially centered around his speech concerning the punishment of the Mytileneans, wherein he argues against a fellow statesman named Dioditus. It has been argued by many in class (myself included among these) that it is Thucydides’ intention to paint Cleon in a negative light, and that the right course of action was to spare the Mytileneans. I would, however, like to take another look at that argument, and assert that, in actuality, Thucydides sees Cleon, at least in some respect,…

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    1. Who are they? Thucydides is considered one of the best Greek historians. His direct and scientific style of documentation and his unbiased approach has greatly influenced modern methods of documenting history. 2. Thucydides lived in Athens but he was exiled for failing to take a city during the Peloponnesian war between Sparta and Athens. After that he stayed near the two in order to document the war. 3. The most famous work of Thucydides is “The History of the Peloponnesian War”. He was…

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    of history, or as an authority on or specialist in history (863). Thucydides is regularly referred to as the, “Real Father of History.” The exact date of the birth of Thucydides is unknown, it was sometime before the Peloponnesian war had begun. Thucydides was in an elite group of Athenian Men, including Pericles, the athenian Leader of at the beginning of the Peloponnesian War ( Pounce, 9). Once the war had began with Sparta Thucydides was elected military magistrate, and had became the…

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    Thucydides, an Athenian historian and philosopher, is known for his contributions to the topic of political realism. One of his most notable works on this subject tells the history of the Peloponnesian War. Halfway through this war, Athens decided that they wanted to take over the last island that was not theirs. The conflict that arose between the Athenians and the people of the island Melos gave life to the quote “the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.” I agree with…

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    Ilan Avineri HIST-315 October 1st, 2017 The Thucydides Trap: An Applied History In the 21st century, political pundits chronically flood the media with supposedly prescient analyses of an inevitable conflict. Whether it be the expanding industrial Chinese that present a challenge to the established western hegemons, or the supposed droves of Islamists flowing from the “muslim world” - the emphasis is on an inescapable collision. Among these analysts, is former national security advisor and…

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    by laying out different types of reactions people have to threats in the international environment and pointing out the three main types of motives in making “foreign policy decisions”, which they say are fear, profit, and social recognition (Chittick 70). Using this base, they set out to discuss and analyze the reasons for the second Peloponnesian War. They make it a point to lay out the methods Thucydides employed to record his history of the war; the narratives and “dramatic speeches”. The…

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    In his book The History of the Peloponnesian War, Thucydides analyses the causes and events of the Peloponnesian war. He provides the reader with an overview of Greek history leading up to the war and the factors that set apart this war from previous conflicts in the region. For his accounts, Thucydides relies on his own observations, as well as multiple sources that he tries to verify as far as possible. This paper will analyse some of the major themes and ideas presented in Thucydides work.…

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    Thomas Hobbes Influence

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    philosophy. He aimed his learnings at the study of classic Greek and Latin authors. He is very well known for the translation of the book, The History of the Peloponnesian War, originally authored by Thucydides. He didn’t begin his work in philosophy until 1629, he spent the majority of his time tutoring William Cavendish the third up until 1637. It was during his time here that he began to expand his knowledge on political philosophy; He enhanced his understanding on the basic principles of…

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    there has always been an imperial power or a group striving to be an imperial power. The Peloponnesian War was no different. The war was fought between the Peloponnesian League and Athens. In this case however, the power striving to be imperial was Athens, who, at the time was supposedly a democracy. As a democracy there are always ways to comprise. In modern society the United States makes constantly compromises. However, when democracies try to be imperial powers things tend to go astray, as…

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    conflicts (Ryan, 2015). Therefore from the perspective of a Pacifist the Athenian’s argument is immediately written off. A Pacifist would strongly argue that under no condition were Athens to inflict themselves upon the Melians as the act, in itself, is considered ‘war making’. Only brief attempts at peace building was made during the Melian Dialogue as the Athenians offer the Melians the chance to submit without direct conflict; “…you will not think it dishonourable to submit to the greatest…

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