Fate In The Iliad: Fate In The Odyssey

Superior Essays
In the Odyssey, the gods and their will represent fate, and as such bring both joy and suffering. Fate in the Iliad -- or rather -- the Fates are more powerful, such that the gods must consider them before interfering in the lives of mortals. In tragedies, fate is presented again as an extension of the gods, but in a much more negative light. However, one thing that remains constant throughout genres is that fate is ultimately inescapable.
In the Odyssey, the Fates as mythological beings are not present, but instead we have them represented through the gods. As such, the gods have much more control over how they interact with mortals; in particular, Odysseus. After Odysseus blinds Poseidon’s son Polyphemus, Poseidon takes it upon himself to
…show more content…
Poseidon’s hatred for Odysseus is a result of Odysseus foolishly revealing his name to Polyphemus after blinding him. “It was the brave warrior Odysseus, the son of Laertes, who lives in Ithaca, who did this to you.” (Odyssey 9.503). Polyphemus prays to his father and asks him for retribution against Odysseus. Odysseus’ ultimate fate regarding his home is brought upon not by Odysseus personally, but by his crew. Despite warnings from Odysseus, they slaughter Helios’ cattle while Odysseus is away. This action locks in Odysseus’ fate at the end of the play, as well as their own fates: they will all perish on the journey back to Ithaca. One could argue that Odysseus is in part to blame for this as well. If Odysseus had taken better precautions, or if he had not left his crew alone, perhaps they might not have slaughtered the cattle. On a more positive note, Odysseus’ first interaction with Nausicaa solidifies his fate of returning home safely. Odysseus chooses his words carefully in a “gentle and clever speech” (Odyssey 6.145) in order to not offend or scare the young princess, and so succeeds in gaining her …show more content…
Though almost all characters involved with the prophecy try to escape their fate, all are unable to do so. Jocasta and Laius try to abstain from having a child, yet fate brought them together with alcohol, and under its influence conceived baby Oedipus. In another attempt to thwart fate, they decide to “[fasten] his ankles together” and leave him to “die of exposure on the mountain.” (Oedipus 711). Of course, fate had other plans in store. Oedipus also does his best throughout his life to avoid fate by staying as far from Corinth, where he believes he was born, as he can. In doing so, he is led to a triple crossroads where he kills his father, all according to fate’s plan. Throughout the play, Oedipus is convinced that seeking the truth will lead him to the answer he has been searching for the whole time and away from the answer he fears, when in fact the opposite is true. Knowledge of the truth is what leads to his final downfall. “O god! O god! It all becomes clear to me now!” (Oedipus

Related Documents

  • Improved Essays

    The definition of the word religion is the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods. The Greeks and Romans, during the Trojan War, prayed, and made sacrifices to their gods, to better their chances of winning the war, or simply beating their opponent; in literature, the relationship between gods and devotees are portrayed much differently. Even though the stories contain different religions, Euripides’s the Bacchae, Homer’s the Odyssey, and Virgil’s the Aeneid discusses religion in terms of personal needs, or popularity, amongst the gods, rather than devotion and good deeds. The Bacchae by Euripides is an ancient Greek tragedy based on the myth of King Pentheus of Thebes and his mother, Agave,…

    • 1271 Words
    • 6 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Improved Essays

    However, his regret is that Polyphemus’s dad just conveniently happened to be Poseidon, god of the sea. Polyphemus uses that to his advantage, cursing Odysseus, and Poseidon, as well as other events, knock out all of Odysseus’s crew excluding Odysseus. However, the enchantress Circe gave a prophecy that Odysseus didn’t believe in: that the entirety of Odysseus’s crew was knocked out, and that Odysseus would struggle to get back to his homeland,…

    • 724 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Superior Essays

    In the case of Odysseus, although he stated his actions were justified through the will of the Zeus and the other gods, his pride led him to be in disfavor with Poseidon. As Odysseus escaped from Polyphemus’ cave and proceeded to sail away, he shouted his real name, rather than his alias, “Nobody”, which caused Polyphemus to call out to Poseidon, his father, to curse Odysseus on his journey home, if he ever makes it that far. With both Orestes and Odysseus, the conflicting opinions of the gods caused much…

    • 1250 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Superior Essays
  • Improved Essays

    Fate in the Aeneid, as it is in the Odyssey and the Iliad, is a driving force. Without fate the story would be at a standstill. Throughout the story fate and destiny causes the main protagonist to continue on his journey to Italy. Aeneas goes to the son of Priam, Helenus, who has a gift for prophecy. Helenus, in his oracle to Aeneas, says, “The Lord God deals out destiny so and turns the wheel of change; so turns the world,” (…

    • 479 Words
    • 2 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Superior Essays

    Later, Oedipus insists that he is not guilty to Jocasta by retelling the story of his life before arriving at Thebes. He points out that he cannot be the murderer of his father, since when he learned of his prophecy, “‘I went where I should never see the disgrace / Of my evil oracles be brought to pass’” (770-771). In other words, Oedipus thinks that by running away from Corinth, he can escape his fate. He unwittingly carries out a part of his downfall by returning to Thebes, where his real parents live, setting off the chain reaction that leads to his downfall.…

    • 1642 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Superior Essays
  • Great Essays

    Therefore everything that happens in a person’s life is Gods will and your destiny. On the other hand we have those who believe in free will. Usually these people believe that you are responsible for everything that happens in your own life. Also like Nature vs. Nurture, your environment can influence your life and decisions, but as a human being, you also know right from wrong and can determine your future with these choices. Three fairly particular powers shape the lives of men and ladies in The Odyssey: destiny, the intercessions of the divine beings, and the activities of the men and ladies themselves.…

    • 1551 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Great Essays
  • Superior Essays

    Odysseus says, “’I wanted to see [the Cyclops] and claim the stranger’s gift… So we lit a fire and made our thank-offering, and helped ourselves to as many cheeses as we wanted to eat; then we sat inside till he should come back with his flocks’” (111). Odysseus is impulsive and does not think before he acts. He is very selfish and only wants to see what glory the Cyclops gives him. He expects everyone to bow down to him, let alone know who he is, contrasting Odysseus when he fights the suitors at the end of the story and receives glory from his city. When Polyphemus, the Cyclops who happens to be Poseidon’s son, returns home, he traps Odysseus and his crew in his cave.…

    • 1566 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Superior Essays
  • Superior Essays

    Poseidon punishes Odysseus by keeping him away from his homeland, Ithaca. “For his sake Poseidon, shaker of the earth, although he does not kill Odysseus, yet drives him back from the land of his fathers,” (I: 74-75). After the Trojan War ended, all Odysseus wanted was to return home to his family with his companions. However, the path he took led him to the land of the Cyclops, and he ended up having to kill Poseidon’s son to continue on his journey home. From Odysseus’ perspective, the cyclops was just another obstacle that he had to overcome to get home; Odysseus believed that he was destined to arrive at Ithaca to be reunited with his family and would overcome whatever he needed to get there.…

    • 1767 Words
    • 8 Pages
    Superior Essays
  • Improved Essays

    The Iliad and The Odyssey The Iliad and The Odyssey are both texts written by the world famous Homer. These two text are quite popular in not only western literature but also is numerous classrooms around the world. These two texts provide different tools that are included in them to help teach many concerns and methods. Some believe that The Odyssey is the sequel to The Iliad mainly because it has some of the same characters and was written after.…

    • 1207 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Superior Essays

    Gilgamesh believes that he is immortal and cannot die therefore the people of Uruk ask the Sumerian gods to create an individual equal to Gilgamesh. Enkidu was created the Gods of wisdom Enlil, Ea gave Gilgamesh the fate to see visions in his dream, and he knew Enkidu was coming and he was to love him as a woman. Gilgamesh and Enkidu became great friends and decided together to conquer the world together and to live forever, to have mortality. Upon the death of his companion realization became apparent to Gilgamesh that death will always come, which is something Gilgamesh has to understand, it becomes so with the death of his friend Enkidu, there is no such thing as immortality, and friendship is crucial in life. Fate is not of our own doing but the doing of others and freewill gives us the decisions to make choices in our lives.…

    • 1029 Words
    • 5 Pages
    • 1 Works Cited
    Superior Essays
  • Improved Essays

    Both the concepts of fate and free will played a crucial part in Oedipus’ downfall. Oedipus was destined from birth to kill his father and marry his mother. This…

    • 1120 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Improved Essays

    His own parents thought he was dead so no longer worried about being killed by their son. Oedipus knew about the prophecy and tried to avoid it by leaving his home and making a life in Thebes, unknowingly setting the prophecy in motion. Oedipus demonstrates his good-heartedness throughout the play by putting others before himself regardless of what has happened to him. Oedipus does not deserve his fate.…

    • 820 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Improved Essays

    Fate And Fate In Oedipus

    • 1107 Words
    • 4 Pages

    I. Before his birth, Oedipus was assigned to a miserable life, but his stubborn attempt to fix his destiny led to his life becoming all the worse; his exile was not destined by fate but was a product of his own actions. A. The fact that Oedipus marries his mother and kills his father cannot be blamed on him because his fate was set before he was born. 1. Tiresias tells Oedipus that the prophecy made when he was born has come true and that he will “be detected in his very heart of home: his children’s father and their brother, son and husband to his mother, bed-rival to his father and assassin” (230).…

    • 1107 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Great Essays

    In The Iliad by Homer, the fate of the mortals is affected by the god’s interference in the war. Homer does not make it clear whether man or gods are in control of fate. The mortals’ decisions may affect their fate,but on the other hand, the gods change the fate of the war by giving bits of wisdom to the mortals to make decisions and help to protect people who are in danger. Though mortals can make decisions that alter fate, the gods uphold the idea that fate is inevitable in a mortal 's life and even though the immortals realize that each mortal has a specific fate, they still intervene in the battle to help certain people by sending muses and inspirations and protecting mortals from dying. The rest of fate is dependent on human free will…

    • 1424 Words
    • 6 Pages
    Great Essays
  • Superior Essays

    But the irony is that, all of this led him to marry his “real mother” Jocasta, and have babies with her and led him to murder his father Laius unknowingly. The further he tried to run from the prediction, the closer her got to it. The fact that Oedipus left Corinth, and the fact that he wanted the murderer of Laius to be exiled, led to the irony, for which Oedipus was unknowingly accountable…

    • 1357 Words
    • 6 Pages
    Superior Essays