Which of the following is the better life? Just or unjust? If so, are men naturally just? It’s a controversial topic to discuss; however, Socrates and Glaucon dispute the better life. In addition, Glaucon and Socrates, use different scenarios to do so. In this reading, Glaucon, a ‘just’ man and apprentice to Socrates, becomes disappointed with Thrasymachus’ abrupt and willingness in defeat. Glaucon, plays devil’s advocate and challenges his successor; Socrates, to a friendly debate. To start the debate of why the ‘just’ man is the best, rather than, ‘unjust’. Glaucon also discusses the best/worst life and how justice is a compromise. He describes the ‘best’ life; injustice, good by nature. Injustice is good by nature, because human beings
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Glaucon gives the ‘unjust’ man, skills of a “distinguished master of craft”, assuming he’ll know what he can and can’t get away with. Glaucon considers this the power of being devious, but doing so in the shadows. He claims that the ‘unjust’ man has to be perfect in his injustice, or else he would be found out. However, Glaucon mentions that if the ‘unjust’ man makes a mistake, he will be able to reclaim himself. On the contrary, Glaucon says that the ‘just’ man is not truly ‘just’ he seems to be good. The ‘just’ man, according to Glaucon, is the noble and simple man; who receives honour and rewards for his nobility. He questions the ‘just’ man’s nobleness and simplicity, in attempt to examine the ‘just’ mans truth; he assumes it’s for rewards and honours. Glaucon also assumes that the ‘just’ man’s life, isn’t as good as the ‘unjust’, because he will always face the “fear of infamy”. Socrates, is appalled by Glaucons’ unfair judgment between the life of ‘just’ and ‘unjust’ man. Glaucon, also mentions the just man “who is thought unjust will be scourged, racked, bound…. He will be impaled.” While, the ‘unjust’ man is pursues reality, does not …show more content…
In his second stance, Glaucon continues the argument of the ‘unjust’ man by, mentioning the ‘unjust’ man is thought of as ‘just’, because the laws of the city apply to him, as well. Glaucon also states that the ‘unjust’ man can “offer sacrifices and gifts to the gods; basically using his wealth to repent for evil doings. He states, because the ‘unjust’ man is wealthy and can dedicate gifts to the gods; they unite to make ‘unjust’ better than ‘just’. However, to offset Glaucons’ argument, that man is naturally ‘unjust’ Socrates, debates the reason why. In his stance, Socrates begins by, stating no man is ‘just’ for the honour and rewards. Furthermore, man is ‘just’, because he is taught by his elders to build character and reputation. He also mentions that ‘just’ men are pious, give good opinions of the gods and that their piety will last for generations. Moreover, Socrates also states that ‘unjust’ men are wicked, living in infamy, evil doings will be revealed and will be punished. In his final stance,
Glaucon gives the ‘unjust’ man, skills of a “distinguished master of craft”, assuming he’ll know what he can and can’t get away with. Glaucon considers this the power of being devious, but doing so in the shadows. He claims that the ‘unjust’ man has to be perfect in his injustice, or else he would be found out. However, Glaucon mentions that if the ‘unjust’ man makes a mistake, he will be able to reclaim himself. On the contrary, Glaucon says that the ‘just’ man is not truly ‘just’ he seems to be good. The ‘just’ man, according to Glaucon, is the noble and simple man; who receives honour and rewards for his nobility. He questions the ‘just’ man’s nobleness and simplicity, in attempt to examine the ‘just’ mans truth; he assumes it’s for rewards and honours. Glaucon also assumes that the ‘just’ man’s life, isn’t as good as the ‘unjust’, because he will always face the “fear of infamy”. Socrates, is appalled by Glaucons’ unfair judgment between the life of ‘just’ and ‘unjust’ man. Glaucon, also mentions the just man “who is thought unjust will be scourged, racked, bound…. He will be impaled.” While, the ‘unjust’ man is pursues reality, does not …show more content…
In his second stance, Glaucon continues the argument of the ‘unjust’ man by, mentioning the ‘unjust’ man is thought of as ‘just’, because the laws of the city apply to him, as well. Glaucon also states that the ‘unjust’ man can “offer sacrifices and gifts to the gods; basically using his wealth to repent for evil doings. He states, because the ‘unjust’ man is wealthy and can dedicate gifts to the gods; they unite to make ‘unjust’ better than ‘just’. However, to offset Glaucons’ argument, that man is naturally ‘unjust’ Socrates, debates the reason why. In his stance, Socrates begins by, stating no man is ‘just’ for the honour and rewards. Furthermore, man is ‘just’, because he is taught by his elders to build character and reputation. He also mentions that ‘just’ men are pious, give good opinions of the gods and that their piety will last for generations. Moreover, Socrates also states that ‘unjust’ men are wicked, living in infamy, evil doings will be revealed and will be punished. In his final stance,