"The mark of the immature man is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature man is that he wants to live humbly for one."(Salinger). Mr Antolini tells Holden this because he feels that holden is heading towards the same fate as James Castle, Suicide. This is the same fate that Conrad from Ordinary people is heading towards as well. The main problem that Holden from Catcher in the Rye by J.D Salinger and Conrad from Ordinary people both face is Depression that stems from the death of their brothers, and react to their depression the same, but Conrad's is worsened from the survivor's guilt he faces.
Holden experiences depression which causes him to talk to his brother and be mad all the time. Holden talks to his brother throughout the book when things aren’t necessarily going his way an example of this is when Holden hits absolute rock …show more content…
Berger. Holden reacts to his depression by shutting out all the people around him. Holden shutting out everyone is shown by his inability to maintain a physical relationship with someone. Holden exhibits this through not having interourse with Sunny and only “necking” with Jane even though he had strong feelings for her. Holden also shuts people out by calling everyone a “phony”. Another response Holden has is giving up on his academics. He does this instinctively and only starts to commit after he is in the care center. Conrad also shuts out the people around him. When Conrad's swimming buddies came up to him by his locker he told them to leave him alone. Conrad also doesn’t talk to his father or mother about his problems. Conrad quit the swimming team like how Holden gave up on his academics. The differences in the way they respond lies with Conrad’s conversations with Dr. Berger. Conrad talks to a person about his problems instead of bottling them up inside and talking to a dead person like how Holden
Holden experiences depression which causes him to talk to his brother and be mad all the time. Holden talks to his brother throughout the book when things aren’t necessarily going his way an example of this is when Holden hits absolute rock …show more content…
Berger. Holden reacts to his depression by shutting out all the people around him. Holden shutting out everyone is shown by his inability to maintain a physical relationship with someone. Holden exhibits this through not having interourse with Sunny and only “necking” with Jane even though he had strong feelings for her. Holden also shuts people out by calling everyone a “phony”. Another response Holden has is giving up on his academics. He does this instinctively and only starts to commit after he is in the care center. Conrad also shuts out the people around him. When Conrad's swimming buddies came up to him by his locker he told them to leave him alone. Conrad also doesn’t talk to his father or mother about his problems. Conrad quit the swimming team like how Holden gave up on his academics. The differences in the way they respond lies with Conrad’s conversations with Dr. Berger. Conrad talks to a person about his problems instead of bottling them up inside and talking to a dead person like how Holden