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what is "nonspecific" abd pain
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cant find cause after WU
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describe visceral pain
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midline, dull, achy, crampy, poor localization
associated with other viscera prblms: NV, diaphoresis |
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what might be involed in a midline dull, achy, crampy epigastric pain
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Liver
GB stomach duodenum |
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what might be involved in a dull achy crampy periumbulical pain
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sm intestine, appendix cecum
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what might be involved in a dull achy crampy pain in the hypogastric area
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colon
kidney bladder pelvic orgen |
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where are the pain R for visceral pain
where are they for somatic pain |
Visceral: visceral peritoneum of hollow organs and the capsule of solid organs
Somatic: parietal peritoneum and roots of mesentary |
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how is pain from ischemia, inflammation and stretch sent?
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somatic pain- myelinated UL fibers. gives a more sharp, discrete, localized pain
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what is somatic pain
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sharp, discrete, localized
Responsible for guarding and rebound pain |
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is gruading/reboud pain visceral or somatic
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somatic
sharp, demarcated, localized |
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what is referred pain
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diseased organ sends pain to distant cutaneous area
both areas are supplied by the same or adjacent dermatomes |
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where is the referred pain
1. MI 2. Pneumonia/PE 3. Appendiciits, SBO 4. uretal colic |
1. MI- diaphragm line
2. pneumonia/PE: at the corners of the transverse colon 3. appendicitis/SBO: periumbilical 4. ureter colic: groin |
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where does this refer pain to
1. diaphragm/spleen 2. cholecystitis 3. pancreatitis 4. salpingitis/cystitis |
1. diaphragm/spleen: R neck/shoulder
2. cholecystitis: tip of R scapula 3. pancreatitis: T7-8 midline 4. salpingitis/cystitis_ just above butt crack |
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what 2 goups of pts with abd pain might have more severe sx. what are the causes
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1. OLD: surgical: vascular, heart disease, sepsis
2. Young: dehydration, septic, no hx **vitals wont accurately reflect degree of illness |
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do vitals reflect accuratly the disease state in old and young ppl
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nope, old nad infants might be sicker than they let on
old: ischemia, heart, sepsis babes: dehydration, sepsis, no accurate hx |
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in old and young (infants) what do you REALLY need to be on the look out for with cc abd pain
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they may not present as sick as they actually are
VS may not be totally reflective so take ANY abnormal serious severe abd pain, rapid onset dehydration pallor/diaphoresis |
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what are associated signs with Abd pain
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NV
diarrhea bleeding |
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tell me about abd pain with FAST onset v INSIDIOUS
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FAST: vascular, stone, rupture of viscus, cyst, ectopic pregnancy. more liekly to be surgical- esp pain less than 24 hours that increasing in severity
INSIDIOUDS: inflammatory- appey, cholesystitis |
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how will vascular problems present onset wise
what about cholecystitis |
vascular, stone, rupture, cyst, ectopic: RAPID
cholecystisi, appey: INSIDIOUS |
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would a surgen prefer an old pt with a rapid onset of abd pain or a younger kid with insidioud onset
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OLD- vascular, heart, sepsis (likely surgical)
FAST- vascular, stone, rupture, cyst, ectopic (likely surgical) infant- dehydrated insidious- inflammatory: appendicitis, cholecystitis **pain that is less than 24 hrs and increased intensity is likely surgical |
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what does this mean. keep in mind the character of pain as described by t depends on their culture, education, anxiety and motive
dull achy burning sharp stabbing crampy tearing |
dull achy burning: visceral
sharp stabbing: somatic, peritoneal crampy: obstruction of viscus tearing: dissecting aneyrysm- old HTN |
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if the pain is out of proportion to PE whats likely
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pancreatitis
mesenteric ischemia |
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whats the pain prigression for appenciditis
what the pain progression for cholecystitis |
appey: periumbilical (RUQ if prego) migrates to RLQ
chole: epigastric migrates to RUQ |
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what kind of pain is...
1. aggrevated by moveming 2. relief with eating 3. increased Pain after eating 4. change in position |
. aggrevated by moveming- parietal peritoneal pain
2. relief with eating: ulcer 3. increased Pain after eating: biliary colic 4. change in position: pancreatitis, peritonitis, |
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what diseases might present when the pt says they have had a simliar pain
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cholecystitis (tip of scapula)
ulcers diverticulitis pancreatitis (lots of vomit) **these all tend to be recurrent |
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what does vomiting tell us about abd pain
excess vomit NO vomit |
1. prbly visceral (dull achy)
2. dehydration 3. cant take PO meds- hospitalize **excess vomit--> obstruction, pancreatiti NO vomit: ovarian, uterine Vomit AFTER pain- surgica; Vomit BEFORE pain- nonspecific gastroenteritis |
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would the surgeon like a pt who is vomiting BEFORE the pain or AFTER
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AFTER
Before- likely nonspecific gastroenteritis **vomit- visceral **lots of vomit- pancreatitis ***no vomit- uterine, ovary **vomit + diarrhea- gastroenteritis, pancreatitis, diverticulitis, |
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how can you detemine if a kid is anorexic
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did you eat breakfast
if you could eat your fav food now would you **anorexia indicated intraabd inflammation |
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what does pooing have to do with it
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diarrhea- dehydration
vomit + diarrhea- gastroenteritis, diverticulitis, pancreatitis constipation: ileus due to inflammation or mechanical block |
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what does increased frequency of bathroom use in a kid mean
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DM
inflammation |
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hx of what is importantan in abd pain
meds surgery LMP |
hx: SM, cardiovascular, HTN, respiratory, renal path
meds: steroids (immunosuppressants), AB, laxatives, narcotics, ASA, NSAIDS Surgery- ADHESION |
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laxative abise is assoicated with what
EtOH abuse... |
1. diverticular disease
2. cecal volvulus EtOH abuse: gastritis, ulcers, pancreatitis |
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you walk in and you pt is pale, sweaty and totally still. whats likely
you walk in and your pt is writing and agitated and moving around |
still: local or diffuse peritonitis
moving: VISCERAL, non sepcific, renal/biliary colic, mesenteric ischemia |
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who might have a normal temp but be infectious
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old, immunosuppressed
low grade fever- appenditcitis, cholesystitis high- salpingitis, pyelonephritis, bacterial enteritis, ruptured viscus |
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when is RR increased
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sepsis
hypoperfusion |
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whats the order of looking at a pt
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1. insepect: look for caput medussa (portal HTN)
2. auscultate: increased BS- non sepcific, gastroenteritis. decreased BS- peritonitis, inflammation. HIGH pitch BS- obstruction 3. percuss: distension 4. palpate: localize tenderness- LOOK for facial grimace |
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guarding, how do you tell voluntary from involuntary
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involuntary is more significant
while palpating the tender ares, ask them to take a breath in. if you can get in deeper its voluntary |
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rebound tenderness
deep palpate then quickly release |
if tender, peritonitis
if cough elicits pain--> rebound a kid jumping around --> pain --> rebound |
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what does a + psoas or obturator sign mean
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inflammation in rectocecal area- appey, salpingitis
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Murphy
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Palpate RUQ, have pt take a breath in, if they stop breathing its painful and cholecystisis, hepatitis,
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what is fist percussion good for
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percuss CVA--> pyelonephritis if tender, or obstructive uropathy
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with CC abd pain, what will kill your patient. you cant afford to miss these ones
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1. aortic aneurysm (ruptured)
2. perforated viscus 3. acute pancreatitis 4. intestinal obstruction 5. mesenteric ischemia |
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tell me about acute pancreatitis
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adults (not kids or elderly)
male EtOH biliary tract disease galltoinse, hypercalcemia, hyperlipidemia --> necrosis |
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you have a 45 yo male with a hx of EtOH and biliary disease. he presents with acute onset of epigastric pain that radiates to his back. He has NV and a low grade fever. He develops ARDS, sepsis, hemorrhage, and renal failure. what is it.
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pancreatitis that you missed
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how does pancreatitis present
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45 yo male
spigastric pain, radiated to back low fever, NV can go into ARDS, sepsis, renal failure |
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tell me about mesenteric ischemia
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common eldery and super deadly
ischemia: transient hypotension, artherosclerosis, thrombi, emboli SEVERE pain, colicky. starts periumbilical, and becomes DIFFUSE, vomit + diarrhea PE unremarkable do a rectal |
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a 85 yo male presents with epigastric pain that becomes diffuse. He has come vomit and diarrhea. He states the pain is SO SEVERE but your PE is unremarkable. Is he
1. drug seeker 2. crazy, the PE didnt show anything, old ppl have diarrhea. its NBD 3. bored 4. mesenteric ischemia |
mesenteric ischemia
**take it serious, SUPER deadly. **ischemia bc of transient hypotension + artherosclerosis/thrombi/emboli |
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who gets appendicitis
who perforates |
adolencence and young adults
women, kids, and eldery perforate obstruction of lumen--> swelling, ischemia, infection, perforation (in kids its lymphoid hyperplasia, in adults its old stuck poo) pain, anorexia. periumbilical to RLQ temp and leukocytosis, but maybe not in older folks |
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tell me about peptic ulcers
age sex perforation pain PE |
50 yo most common, but ALL ages
M>W not common, not lots of bleed epigastric pain, non radiating. gets better with food/antacid. pain wakes pt from sleep PE unremarkable |
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tell me more about non specific abd pain
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young, middle age women. child bearing years. associated psych disorder
**often see cancer much later **chronic recurrent PERITONEAL SIGNS NOT PRESENT |
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are peritoneal signs present in nonspecific abdomen
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nope
women w/psych disorders. turns our later they have cancer |
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whats teh deal with kids and abd pain
presentation common not common |
1. they cant tell you about it
2. everything makes their belly hurt- pharyngitis, pneumonia etc 3. common: gastroenteritis, mesenteric adenitis, appendicitis 4. NOT common: biliary tract disease, pancreatitis, gyne problems, vascular |
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whats the deal with old ppl and abd pain
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1. they are TOUGH, high pain tolerance (altered neurotransmission)
2. present weird, no high fevers, vitals wont represent 3. dont like hospitals 4. more likely to have vascular (mesenteric ischemia), cancer, complicating diseases, perforation, cholecystiis, diverticulitis |
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abd pain and...
1. WBC 2. Hgb.HCT 3. Amylase 4. UA 5. Pregnancy test |
1. WBC: infection. appendicitis, PID, cholecystitis. super high in: peforation, peritonitis, fulminant pancreatitis, sepsis
2. Hgb.HCT: hemorrhage, dehydration, anemia. acute heorrhage (ectopic preg, leaking AAA) will initially be normal values and then drop 3. Amylase: increased in pancreatitis, PUD, SBO/ischemia, common duct stones, ectopic preggo, renal failure, EtOH, facial trauma (salivary amylase) 4. UA: WBC- UTI, RBC- tumor, trauma, stones 5. Pregnancy test: ALWAYS on any woman of childbearing years |
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abd pain and...
1. Electrolytes 2. Liver fx test |
Electrolytes: low bicarb--:>anion gap acidosis, sepsis, mesenteric ischemia, DKA. confirm with ABG
2. Liver: biliary disease hepatitis etc |
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abd pain and imaging
1. CXR 1. ABD series 3. Contrast imaging |
1. CXR- upright to determine free air under diaphragm as is seen with ruptured viscous
2. ABD seriesL dilated loops, air fluid levels, clacification, gallstones. little value 3. contrast: barium CI in perforations. contrast enema determines ileus vs mechanical obstruction |
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abd pain and
1. US 2. CT |
US- biliary tract, GB, pancreas, kidney, aorta, uterus. gasstones,
CT- expensive, NOT screening. pancreas, petroperitoneal space, spleen. pancreatic abcess, retroperitoneal hamorrhage, leakign AAA |
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who with abd pain gets EEG
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old ppl, heart disease mistaken for abd pain
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pain relief
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dont give before surgical consult, masks peritoneal signs
give anxiety relif (hydroxyline) to help pt and not block peritoneal signs |
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who gets immediate wurgical consult
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appendicitis
obstruction perforated ulcer acute cholesystitis fast onset, increased severity, local/diffuse peritoneal signs |