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adverse effects of drugs are expensive
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1.33$ on SE for every 1$ on meds
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risk factors for adverse drug effects
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6 or more concurrent chronic conditions
12 or more dises of drugs/day 9 or more meds prior adverse rxn low body weight / BMI >85 yo Creatinine clearance <50ml |
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old people in studies
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not in the drug studies bc they make the studies less likely to accept the drug by FDA
also because you can't be on any other drugs to be part of the study can't include pt with alzheimer in a heart failure trial... |
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dynamics vs kinetics
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dynamics what the drug does to the body
kinetics - what the body does to the drug |
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absorption of drugs on old
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less surface area but more exposure due to low motility
this cancels out old don't make as much acid - and some drugs can't be absorbed ex: Fe (give with vit C) divalet cations (ca mg fe) can affect the absorption of fluoroquinolones (ciprofloxacin) (Fe + Thephylline) enteral (tube) feeding interfere with some aborpsion (theophilline) |
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drug absorption from skin
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increasing amounts through skin
-thin skin favors absorption -decreased perfusion of skin delays absorption -Nitroglycerin, estrigen, pain meds, blood pressyre meds, aged skin is thinner (+ abs) BUT the blood flow is less (- abs) so it's more unpreductable in aging |
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distribution
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old ppl have more fat and less water
depending on the drug solubility - it'll be more or less concentrated ex: the valium mobilized from fat stores from 25 to 75 yo: fat + 100% water - 10% cell solids -35% bone mineral -20% |
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changes in binding proteins for drugs in aging
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albumin has 2 binding sites - but can bind about 5 drugs each
If albumin drops --> amount free will go up; but normally the lvl is unchanged in healthy old person; healthy old ppl have nl albumn 4 BUT: Illness in older ppl - decrease in albumin and big INcrease in a-1-glycoprotein (this protein binds the antidepressants - which goes up when you're sick - so you're sad and sick - have to increase the dose of their antidepressants) |
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Dilantin (Phenytoin)
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OK if it's lower in elderly
if older pt is seizure free with total pheytoin of 7, don't increase it unless they're seizing. - it's bc the there is more free available (the bound % decreases and then the free is the same 10) |
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metabolism Isosorbide dinitrate
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extensive metabolism in liver first pass
young liver can metabolize 12-15mg oral dose old liver can metabolize less so 10mg isosorbide is placepo dose in young and reasonable first dose in old don't expect linear effect of isosorbide on BP as you may be tripling dose by increasing from 10 to 20 doubling dose is NOT good: 10mg young sees 0, old sees 5 20mg young sees 5 , old sees 15 probably due to blood flow mainly |
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metabolism
example: Valium |
Overall decline in metabolic capacity due to decreased liver mass and hepatic blood flow
metabolic capacity is highly variable; no good estimation algorithm exists decreased first pass metabolism in old phase I (P450 --> oxidation, reduction, hydrolysis) is more likely to decrease with advancing age phase II (conjugation) usually unchanged induction decreased for some enzymes Valium: lasts longer in old people -elimination half life 24y in young but 90yrs in old -highly metabolized by P450 enzymes including active metabolites (and highly fat soluble) -pharmacokinetic effects add to pharmacodynamic effects -other benzodiazepines have shorter, predictable half life -we use lorazepam (Ativan)[shorter half life and only metabolized by glucuronidation] but don't like Benzo's in general |
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estimating renal fct
how does it change with age? |
creatinine clarance decreases with age
decreased by 35% in healthy older men (no HTN, no DM, no drugs) decreased concentrating and diluting capacity increased number sclerotic glomeruli to 30% of total dependence on prostaglandins to maintain filtration decreased renal blood flow and renal mass serum creatinine does not change with age (TEST Q) when you use the formula to estimate the CrCl, use the ideal body weight overall they still have decreased renal excretion: so this means: -elimination is prolonger -serum lvls of drug are increased as are toxicity -evidence from gentamycin or digoxin or vancomycin, all highly water soluble drugs |
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Pharmacodynamics
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lower lvls in older ppl are ok
receptor numbers, affinity, or post-receptro cellular effets can change changes in the homeostatic mechanisms can increase or decrease drug sensitivity |
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Versed
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drug before colonoscopy - sedating sleep -
how much Versed needed to not have a EEG changes w/o flinching the amount needed for an older was half of what's needed for younger pt. |
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Coumadin
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less needed in older ppl
noone over 85 needed more than 5mg/day to be on target INR |
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Atropine
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older have LESS response, so you need more
old person will have less of a HR increase it gets rid of the vagal tone - |
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b-adrenergic drugs -isoproterenol
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older ppl are less responsive to b-adrenergic drugs -isoproterenol
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mechanisms of dynamic changes
3 + drug drug interaction |
receptors are less responsive (b-adrenergic)
homoeostatic mechanisms down (vagal) [antiHTN induced orthostasis] increased responsiveness (Benzodiazepines, digoxin, neuroleptics, opioid, antigoac(warfarin), anti-cholinergic) D-D interactions are worse with dementia - because this induces sensitvity and paradoxical reactions to drugs with CNS or anti-cholinergic efects -obesity alters volume of distribution of lipophilic drugs -ascites alters VD of hydrophilic drugs -renal or hepatic impairment may impair drug detox |
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Beers criterias
should never be used in old people |
Beers bad boys
propoxephen for pain (Darvon) bad - crappy pain med- makes the confused - one of the worst Robazin - muscle relaxant - makes them confused Librium - long acting benzos - last even longer than valium - bad too Benadryl - Diphenhydramine[ON TEST] - the anti-cholinergic effect again causes them to be confused (also Soma - that's Diphenhydramine) [only time to use with old ppl it's for a blood transfusion - every once in a while an old person gets confused after a transfusion] indomethacin |
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glucose in age
why? |
fasting gluc stays the same,
BUT the system doesn't respond as well to an OGTT. Post prandial glucose: if it's <100 + age = normal the post prandial glucose curve is higher and it takes longer manifest: small but significant increase in HgA1c why? because they're insulin resistant |
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why is there higher HgA1C / post prandial
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because they're insulin resistant
less receptors? or less sensitivity? they have a lower affinity - it takes higher conc to be saturated to get the same gluc uptake, insulin infusion needed is 3x higher |
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some mechanisms of insulin resistance (4)
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increase in visceral body fat with aging is mediated by inflammation and obesity
decreased lean body weight LBW glucose utilization markedly impaired decreased fat cell insulin dependent (glut4) glucose transporters, also muscle in rat sedentary lifestyle has had in impact decreased suppression of hepatic glucose output decreased alternative agonist IGF-1 |
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prevalence of DM
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8.6% 20-44yo
23% 45-54 28% 55-64 40.8% 65-74 effect of aging on fasting glucose is 0, so that's DM |
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when old people get sick, what happens with the glucose
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worsening insulin resistance - hyperglycemia! don't label as DM, check again in 6wk
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glucagon in age
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not changed
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thyroid H with age
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t3 t4 serum not changed, BUT free T3 is decreased slightly
t4 prodiction decreases 25% T3 production decreases 35% euthyroid SICK sydrome -deiodinases prefer reverse T3, and if you're sick the rT3 accumulates because they body says "I don't want any more T3" -subtle decreases in free T3 in healthy men no change in free T4 Lower T4 and Lower T3 is correlated with longer survival |
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if you have to give more meds
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they're not taking their meds
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One Growth Hormone measurement during the day?
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worthless, because it's too variable. You could measure IGF-1 instead.
Aging resembles growth hormone deficiency in certain characteristics. Low GH levels result in thin skin, decreased muscle mass, decreased bone mass and increased fat mass. All these changes occur with aging as well, however GH administration has not proven to be the Fountain of Youth. In fact many long lived mouse models are GH ir IGF-1 deficient. 1. GH is primarily secreted by the pituitary in discrete pulses which are highest at night. The nocturnal pulses decrease in men, but baseline levels unaltered. Overall, 24 hour integrated levels decrease up to 50% by age 70. 2. Pulses decrease to a much smaller extent in women until after menopause, but then decrease rapidly. 3. Pituitary response to Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) is decreased, but can be restored to youthful function during chronic treatment with GH-releasing peptides. 4. IGF-1 is decreased by 30-50% from age 20-80 in most old persons due mostly to decrease in GH pulses but also to decreased responsiveness of the old liver to GH.. 5. Low IGF-1 may contribute to senile osteoporosis (which occurs in both men and women.) 6. Slightly lower IGF-1 over long term may be associated with increased longevity. 7. Somatostatin, which opposes GHRH, is unchanged. 8. Exercise, though it will maintain muscle mass, does not change the decreases in IGF-1 with age. |
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IGF-1 in age
are we like the mouse in the lab - challenge poor or challenge rich? |
decreases
also lower paracrine effects deceases more in certain tissues you can get a random IGF-1 and see the decrease lower lvls -- longer life why give IGF-1? the dwarf mouse did poorely in the real environment but had a longer survival in the lab. |
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DHEA with age
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decrease in normal men
it's used as a precursor for sex=steroids; there are resceptors for it in the CNS, but the DHEA is sulfated so it can't pass the BBB.. but ppl still buy it Adrenal Cortex 1. No aging change (some report an increase) in basal or stimulated cortisol 2. Increased responsiveness to ACTH administration 3. Less suppression of cortisol by dexamethasone acutely 4. May be harder to turn off after stimulation with stress (especially surgery) 5. Old more likely to develop adrenal suppression and insufficiency after chronic steroid therapy. 6. Marked decrease in (Dehydroepiandrosterone) DHEA, DHEAS |
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cortisol in age
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decreased ability to maximally produce cortisol in response to maximal stress, but adequate release for most stresses
decrease synthetic ability cortisol release is less completely suppressed by Dex, but also more difficult to normalize once suppressed with long term corticosteroid treatment. the old guys still had elevated lvl of cortisol long after the stress/illness |
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testosterone in aging
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large variability, but overall decrease
increase in sex hormone binding globulin in older men fall in T may be accentuated by any chronic or acute illness less sperm produced - less Sertoli cells |
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Glucose Tolerance
how are the tests different in older people? |
1. Glucose regulation is decreased markedly by age and elevations in circulating glucose are implicated in accelerating the aging process by facilitating glycosylation of proteins (HgA1c is also up)
2. Fasting glucose increases by only 1% per decade 3. Post carbohydrate challenge glucose increases significantly. Peak post-prandial glucose increases by 10 mg/dl decade. Almost all normal 70 year olds have impaired glucose tolerance after oral glucose challenge (75 gm) using criteria applied to twenty year olds. I allow for post-prandial (and any other non-fasting) glucose up to 100 + Age. |
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Why do they have Glucose intolerance??
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4. Proposed mechanisms for impaired glucose tolerance in the elderly.
a. Changes in body composition (increased fat and decreased muscle) play some role b. Plasma insulin levels normal or elevated c. Release of insulin by pancreas impaired mildly d. Delayed suppression of hepatic glucose output e. Decline in insulin clearance f. No change in pancreas insulin content g. Decreased rate of peripheral glucose uptake in men and women. h. Glucose utilization impaired (1) Anaerobic pathways and production of lactate are decreased in muscle in the older person. (2) Glucose monophosphate, stops loss of glucose from cell and is produced by hexokinase, which has decreased activity in older person. i. Peripheral tissues less responsive to insulin in the elderly (1) Insulin receptors may be decreased (2) Decreased concentrations of alternative agonist IGF-1 (3) Decreased Glucose transporters Glut4 (insulin dependent) vs Glut 1 (don’t need insulin) in skeletal muscle and fat j. Physical activity plays an important mediating role and most elderly are sedentary. In a few studies physical fitness and adiposity were surrogates for age. k. Metabolic Syndrome=hypertension, central obesity, augmented sympathetic nervous system stimulation=> impaired glucose tolerance l. Normal older persons will have elevations in HgBA1C(glycosylated hemoglobin) especially when they are ill. The age effects on stress mediated hyperglycemic mechanisms are smaller than the hypoglycemic mechanisms. If a person has a moderately elevated glucose while acutely ill then treat the glucose, but re-evaluate the person for diabetes mellitus when they are not sick usually 6 weeks after discharge. m. AGE are advanced glycosylation end-products. They form when glucose non-enzymatically attacks proteins and reduce the function of the proteins. They accumulate with age in skin and tendon and some other long lived proteins rich areas, but not found in other similar areas. They can cause cateracts. Caloric restriction decreases serum glucose and the formation of AGE. AGE will stimulate atherosclerosis. Some implicate these AGE as a major cause of aging. n. Exercise training improves but does not erase the aging effects. o. Glucagon metabolism, control and responsiveness is unchanged with age. Also no change in hyperglycemic effects of norepinephrine and cortisol. The result is what is observed in #L. |
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When will the normal older persons have elevations in HgBA1C even if they're not DM?
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Normal older persons will have elevations in HgBA1C(glycosylated hemoglobin) especially when they are ill. The age effects on stress mediated hyperglycemic mechanisms are smaller than the hypoglycemic mechanisms. If a person has a moderately elevated glucose while acutely ill then treat the glucose, but re-evaluate the person for diabetes mellitus when they are not sick usually 6 weeks after discharge.
if they have hyperglycemia while ill, label the as hyperglycemic but not as diabetic. reevaluate in 6wks |
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Thyroid changes
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1. No changes in circulation levels of hormones (T3 and T4), but decreased metabolism (turnover) of hormones. The amount and percent that is free hormone is also unchanged.
2. Decreased end organ responsiveness to T3 with aging 3. Decreased conversion of T4 to T3. Peripheral site is where age-related decrease occurs vs. Intra-thyroid conversion which is preserved 4. No change in TSH 5. Early evidence that being a minimally hypothyroid may be better associated with increased longevity |
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Growth Hormone
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Aging resembles growth hormone deficiency in certain characteristics. Low GH levels result in thin skin, decreased muscle mass, decreased bone mass and increased fat mass. All these changes occur with aging as well, however GH administration has not proven to be the Fountain of Youth. In fact many long lived mouse models are GH ir IGF-1 deficient.
1. GH is primarily secreted by the pituitary in discrete pulses which are highest at night. The nocturnal pulses decrease in men, but baseline levels unaltered. Overall, 24 hour integrated levels decrease up to 50% by age 70. 2. Pulses decrease to a much smaller extent in women until after menopause, but then decrease rapidly. 3. Pituitary response to Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) is decreased, but can be restored to youthful function during chronic treatment with GH-releasing peptides. 4. IGF-1 is decreased by 30-50% from age 20-80 in most old persons due mostly to decrease in GH pulses but also to decreased responsiveness of the old liver to GH.. 5. Low IGF-1 may contribute to senile osteoporosis (which occurs in both men and women.) 6. Slightly lower IGF-1 over long term may be associated with increased longevity. 7. Somatostatin, which opposes GHRH, is unchanged. 8. Exercise, though it will maintain muscle mass, does not change the decreases in IGF-1 with age. |
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1. List the primary aging changes in the cardiovascular system.
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A. Because of the High prevalence of hypertension, atherosclerosis, and coronary artery disease in Western Society, it has been difficult to dissect disease changes from age changes. None of the above (HTN, ASCVD, CAD) are normal.
B. Aorta and Peripheral Vessels 1. Age-related Changes in Structure: a. Calcification of media b. Increased lumen diameter and length c. Increased mural thickness d. Increased collagen, especially in subendothelium e. Fragmentation of elastin in media f. Increased mucopolysaccharide and glycosaminoglycans g. Irregularities in size and shape of endothelial cells h. Variability of all these changes in extent from degree and site i. Increased tendency of old vascular smooth muscle to proliferate which may put older person at higher risk for atherosclerosis. j. Age-related changes are different from atherosclerosis 2. Age-related Changes in Arterial Function: a. Reduced compliance, stiffer large arteries b. Increase in systolic blood pressure with no change (or a decrease) in diastolic blood pressure c. Decreased blood pressure response to most vasodilator drugs d. Increased impedance, much smaller changes in peripheral vascular resistance. e. Endothelium production of vasoactive substances, especially nitric oxide, are decreased. f. These changes occur where the blood flow is pulsatile or where the arteries are big enough to have a name. C. Heart 1. Age-related Changes in Structure: a. Gross changes: 1. Increased left atrial size 2. Mild Left ventricular hypertrophy 3. Small decrease in left ventricular cavity size 4. Increased fat b. Microscopic changes: 1. Reduced number of pacemaker cells in the Sino-Atrial node (90% dead by age 70) 2. Mild myocyte hypertrophy in ventricles 3. Increase in lipofuscin (a waste product of long chain fatty acids) 4. Increase in fibrous tissue in the atria and ventricles 5. Accumulation of fat and collagen between the muscle bundles 2. Age-related impact on cardiac function: a. At Rest: 1. Left Ventricular Ejection Fraction-Unchanged 2. Resting Heart rate-unchanged 3. Resting Cardiac Output-unchanged 4. Contraction time is increased 5. Ventricular stiffness increased 6. Diastolic function-decreased 7. Left Atrial Systole contribution to left ventricular filling- increased 8. Contractility unchanged b. With increased demand (like during exercise or an acute illness): 1. Peak Ejection Fraction-decreased 2. Maximum Heart rate-decreased 3. Maximum Cardiac Output-decreased 4. Contraction time increased 5. Ventricular stiffness increased 6. Diastolic function-decreased |
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2. Explain how these changes affect cardiovascular function during the
stress of exercise or acute illness. |
2. Age-related impact on cardiac function:
a. At Rest: 1. Left Ventricular Ejection Fraction-Unchanged 2. Resting Heart rate-unchanged 3. Resting Cardiac Output-unchanged 4. Contraction time is increased 5. Ventricular stiffness increased 6. Diastolic function-decreased 7. Left Atrial Systole contribution to left ventricular filling- increased 8. Contractility unchanged With increased demand (like during exercise or an acute illness): 1. Peak Ejection Fraction-decreased 2. Maximum Heart rate-decreased 3. Maximum Cardiac Output-decreased 4. Contraction time increased 5. Ventricular stiffness increased 6. Diastolic function-decreased Some of the decrements in function seen at peak exercise in healthy elders are also present when the elderly are given infusions of beta-adrenergic agonists like isoproterenol. When young people are given beta-adrenergic antagonists like propranolol and then ask to exercise, they resemble older people in terms of decreased maximum heart rate and decreased maximum cardiac output. 3. There is no change with age in the cardiac output measured at any given level of exercise achieved, but obviously old people cannot attain the highest levels that young people can. That is old people are just as efficient as young people. 4. Determinants of cardiac output (CO) C.O.=HR x S.V. a. Heart rate. The average heart rate achieved during activities of daily living are lower in the old compared to in the young. During aerobic exercise, maximum achievable heart rate decreases with increasing age regardless of the level of physical fitness. The average maximal heart rate during upright exercise decreases from about 200 beats per minute at age 20 to 150 beats per minute at age 70 for men. Rough formula for men: 220-age gives maximum heart rate. For Women, its 85% of men. So when you see a person who is ill and has sinus tachycardia, don’t just think of the absolute heart rate, but consider what it is in proportion to the person’s maximal heart rate. b. Stroke volume increases with exercise in the elderly. This is accomplished by increasing the end- diastolic volume with a smaller increase in end systolic volume. Because of the aged person’s inability to increase his heart rate, the C.O. needed is attained if possible, by increasing the volume expelled with each contraction. c. In a young person, C.O. is increased without an increase in left ventricular filling pressure (healthy young people do not use Frank-Starling mechanism). Because the elderly cannot increase heart rate to the same extent, they rely on increasing left ventricular filling and therefore left ventricular filling pressures increase with exercise in the old. Additionally inotropic state of the old heart is less responsive to the sympathetic stimulation associated with exercise so the old heart relies on the Frank-Starling curve to increase cardiac output. d. With exercise the relevant arteries dilate maximally in the young. In the old the responsiveness of arteries and veins to the vasodilating effect of beta-adrenergic agonists and other mediators is decreased leading to relatively increased vascular resistance. |
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1. List the primary aging changes in the cardiovascular system.
2. Explain how these changes affect cardiovascular function during the stress of exercise or acute illness. 3. Explain how primary aging changes place the older patient at increased risk for congestive heart failure. |
D. Clinical implications with respect to heart failure
An S4 is a normal finding in an older person because the ventricle is stiffer and atrial systole contributes a greater amount to ventricular filling. Congestive heart failure, a common clinical syndrome in older people is characterized by accumulation of sodium and water and congestion of the pulmonary veins and lungs, the systemic veins and liver and by increased diastolic pressure within the ventricles of the heart. In young and middle aged individuals the prevalent cause of heart failure is poor systolic function of the heart (as shown by decreased ejection fraction). In a significant number of older patients with congestive failure, systolic function of the heart is not impaired and the problem is diastolic heart function. For more than half of older patients with heart failure, the pathophysiology of their heart failure is different and treatment must be tailored appropriately. Physicians caring for these patients will have to alter their therapeutic plans based on these pathophysiologic considerations. |
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BP: 160/60 means what?
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Aortic regurgitation in young people
(Regurgitant flow reduces the diastolic pressure --> The pulse pressure widens, systolic blood pressure remains normal or slightly elevated. This is because sympathetic nervous system and the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone axis of the kidneys compensate for the decreased cardiac output.) but stiff arteries in the old can cause this (reduced compliance - not to do with "resistance" - the impedance doesn't really change with age) |
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what's so bad about stiffer arteries with age?
change in S vs Diastole?? |
they provide less cushioning and pressure reflections occur
the systolic increases with age while the diastolic stays. |
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atherosclerosis is NOT...
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aging
it is unique to western man, compromises lumen, it has an inflammatory component, cholesterol is a cofactor; changes that ARE related to aging: -in most species, uniform, lumen enlarges, not with WBC, independent of cholesterol |
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Aorta and Peripheral Vessels
Age-related Changes in Structure |
Calcification of media.
Increased lumen diameter and length. Increased mural thickness. Increased collagen, especially in subendothelium. Fragmentation of elastin in media. Increased mucopolysaccharide and glycosaminoglycans. Irregularities in size and shape of endothelial cells. Variability of all these changes in extent from degree and site. Increased tendency of old vascular smooth muscle to proliferate which may put older person at higher risk for atherosclerosis. Age-related changes are different from atherosclerosis. |
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Aorta and Peripheral Vessels
Age-related Changes in Arterial Function |
Reduced compliance, stiffer large arteries.
Increase in systolic blood pressure with no change (or a decrease) in diastolic blood pressure. Decreased blood pressure response to most vasodilator drugs. Increased impedance, much smaller changes in peripheral vascular resistance. Endothelium production of vasoactive substances, especially nitric oxide, are decreased. |
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Changes in Structure
of the heart |
Gross changes:
Increased left atrial size Mild Left ventricular hypertrophy Small decrease in left ventricular cavity size (and hypertrophy of the cells in the ventricles) Increased fat Microscopic changes: Reduced number of pacemaker cells in the Sino-Atrial node (90% dead by age 70) Mild cellular hypertrophy in ventricles (while the myocytes are swelling, everything else is dissapearing) Increase in lipofuscin (a waste product of long chain fatty acids) Increase in fibrous tissue in the atria and ventricles Accumulation of fat and collagen between the muscle bundles |
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Changes in Function
of heart at rest |
At Rest:
Left Ventricular Ejection Fraction-Unchanged Resting Heart rate-unchanged (decreased HR response to sympathetic and parasympathetic response) Resting Cardiac Output-unchanged Contraction time is increased Ventricular stiffness increased Diastolic function-decreased Left Atrial Systole contribution to left ventricular filling- increased Contractility- unchanged With increased demand (like during exercise): Peak Ejection Fraction-decreased Maximum Heart rate-decreased Maximum Cardiac Output-decreased Contraction time increased Ventricular stiffness increased Diastolic function-decreased Experiment: we give propranolol to ablate all the input to the heart --> intrinsic HR decreases 5-6beats/10yrs Multiple longitudinal study of aging: found that for men 220-age = maximal HR for exercise testing. No matter how hard they exercised, they still fit on this trend. |
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change in CO with aging?
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Decrements in function seen at peak exercise in healthy elders are also present when they are given beta-adrenergic agonists (isoproterenol).
Giving young people beta-adrenergic antagonists like propranolol decreases their maximum heart rate and maximum cardiac output to the levels seen in the elderly. No change with age in the cardiac output measured at any given level of exercise achieved. But obviously old people cannot attain the highest levels that young people can. Translation: old people are just as efficient as young people. the ability of the heart to reload becomes critical (since the max HR can't get faster)- so the SV is where the money is to maintain CO relaxation and contraction require 50/50% of the energy! Determinants of cardiac output: CO = HR x SV Heart Rate: Average heart rate achieved during activities of daily living are lower in the old than the young. During aerobic exercise, maximum achievable heart rate decreases with increasing age regardless of the level of physical fitness. The average maximal heart rate during upright exercise decreases from about 200 beats per minute at age 20 to 150 beats per minute at age 70 for men. Rough formula for men: 220-age gives maximum heart rate. For women, it’s 85% of men. Stroke volume increases with exercise in the elderly: Increased end- diastolic volume. Smaller increase in end systolic volume. Increased LV filling pressures: the elderly cannot increase heart rate to the same extent, so to maintain CO, they rely on increasing left ventricular filling. Inotropic state of the old heart is less responsive to the sympathetic stimulation associated with exercise so the old heart relies on the Frank-Starling curve to increase cardiac output. Relative increase in vascular resistance: With exercise, the relevant arteries dilate maximally in the young. In the old, the responsiveness of arteries and veins to the vasodilating effect of beta-adrenergic agonists and other mediators is decreased leading to relatively increased vascular resistance. there's no age related change in LV-ejection fraction - 65% is nl for old and young - the papillary muscles have impaired relaxation - impairs diastole |
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with exercise, what happens to the HR young vs old
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young remove their large vagal tone - get to their intrinsic HR and then they add the increase via the sympathetic response.
old have less vagal tone to remove - have lower intrinsic - and then less stimulated by sympa |
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Who is sick, the 80 yr old with 120 heart rate or the 25 year old with HR of 170? (both have signs of pneumonia)
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Both very sick - both are at 75% of max HR
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what part of the heart muscle actually has the lesion causing the decreased maximal CO?
who picks up the slack? |
the lesion is in the Ca-pump that replenishes the SR - so the diastolic filling is the problem.
so atrial systole has to work a lot harder and makes up for 50% of the diastolic LV filling (vs 15% in young) and so atrial fibrillation can produce --> CHF to measure how much more you need the atria, you can measure the lower the ratio E/A, or the VO2max despite the cardiac hypertrophy, E/A in athletes is higher than in sedentary control. Exercise trained ppl have augmented diastolic fct determinants of diastolic fct: 1) active relaxation 2) passive stiffness (for really slow HR this is important factor) 3) uniformity of LV (critical) |
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starling's law of the heart
old or young? |
the young people increase CO by HR and by increasing LV filling. the pressures Never go up.
in old people, starling's law IS used to increase CO - because the other responses (b-adrenergic..)are inadequate. |
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S4 in old person
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is normal because they have "A Stiff Heart"
= Atrial gallop deceased respone to some CV drugs CHF becomes more common -especially with primary diastolic dysfunction (systolic is preserved, Ejection fraction is preserved) |
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MI mortality with age
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increases drastically after 65
the heart has less homeostatic response mechanisms - ex the young heart tries to fix it by laying down new alpha-actin; the old can't do that they're already compensating - they have ANF already "ON" |
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why are old people prone to orthostatic hypotension
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decreased baroreceptor sensitivity
decreased arterial compliance decreased .... |
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type of heart failure?
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diastolic dysfunction
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efficiency of the old with CO and work input
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no difference in efficiency
but old people can't increase the CO as much can become more efficient with exercise |
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loss of atrial systole
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old: huge change in CO
normal older people have increased reliance on atrial systole |
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get a random during the day GH
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it doesn't tell you anything?
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