Radical Doctrines did not appeal to conservatives creoles not interested in making colonial society more fair wanted to rule themselves worried about loosing control over their peasants
Creoles from Mexico and Peru ended up backing away from in fear of hidalgos act of 1810
Argentinean and Venezuelan Creoles were more risky towards the situation- had to reach out to the people creoles too few to gain independence on their own winning strategy: navitism needed people to identify with birth place share common unity with indigenous people to protect mother country policies- americanos
“Who should govern? The People! And who are the People? Americanos!”
Gaining independence
Creoles wanted the social status