Thales and Socrates According to Palmer (2014), Thales is known as the first philosopher in western tradition (p. 6). His first observation was that “everything is water” (Palmer, 2014, p. 6) but he was wrong. Thales did not like to focus on “miracles or wills of the gods” (Palmer, 2014, p. 7), instead he focused on natural phenomena. Palmer (2014) wrote that Thales noticed the changes going on around the world such as it going from night to day, summer to winter, hot to cold, and most importantly how life changes to death, and then possibly create life again (p. 7, and 8). The question that Thales asks is “if there is change, then there must be something behind change that itself does not change” (Palmer, 2014, p. 8). Thales noticed that
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Thales asks another question that if there are many others, than there must be one of the many others around him? Within the question Thales sees that “difference is logically dependent on the concept of sameness, which is more basic, and difference must be reducible to sameness” (Palmer, 2014, p. 8). Overall the question believes that human mind is able to fathom that unchanging one behind many, and fathoming it (Palmer, 2014, p. 8) His answer to this question is natural not supernatural. Thales’ philosophical way is to “trace things to their origin, not to their chronological order but to their ontological origin which is the origin of being (Palmer, 2024, p. 10). Thales came up with a hypothesis about logical analysis that he made in his discoveries. In the end Thales said that there must be a simple element, and noticed that water is the simplest one. Most of his observations were wrong about what water, but it …show more content…
He did not like to write philosophy because he thought that letters killed the spirit (Palmer, 2014, p. 28). Socrates considered philosophy a social gathering because they wanted to know the truth. In order to spread his philosophical truth he went out into the city and talked about “higher things” (Palmer, 2014, p. 28). A man that Socrates included in his work was Plato. Plato is a bright person who did not contradict Socrates’ words. Socrates has three dialogues that try to explain his knowledge about major topics. At the end of the third dialogue Socrates and the other person begin to realize that there is a philosophical point to this question. In the beginning the young man claims that knowledge has to be shown for what it is, such as an arrogant defense mechanism to hide his ignorance from himself and others. In order to end the issue of ignorance between each other, they make many hypotheses to discover the truth. Although many agreed with Socrates, other did not. He was put on trial for impiety, teaching false doctrines, and corrupting the youth. Palmer (2014) is saying that “when one achieves knowledge, one achieves human excellence also known as arte and one becomes am excellent human being” (p.32). Socrates has been looking for this his whole life, but has confused him. He obviously does not know, so he is an ignorant person. During the trial he told the court that he “knew nothing
Thales asks another question that if there are many others, than there must be one of the many others around him? Within the question Thales sees that “difference is logically dependent on the concept of sameness, which is more basic, and difference must be reducible to sameness” (Palmer, 2014, p. 8). Overall the question believes that human mind is able to fathom that unchanging one behind many, and fathoming it (Palmer, 2014, p. 8) His answer to this question is natural not supernatural. Thales’ philosophical way is to “trace things to their origin, not to their chronological order but to their ontological origin which is the origin of being (Palmer, 2024, p. 10). Thales came up with a hypothesis about logical analysis that he made in his discoveries. In the end Thales said that there must be a simple element, and noticed that water is the simplest one. Most of his observations were wrong about what water, but it …show more content…
He did not like to write philosophy because he thought that letters killed the spirit (Palmer, 2014, p. 28). Socrates considered philosophy a social gathering because they wanted to know the truth. In order to spread his philosophical truth he went out into the city and talked about “higher things” (Palmer, 2014, p. 28). A man that Socrates included in his work was Plato. Plato is a bright person who did not contradict Socrates’ words. Socrates has three dialogues that try to explain his knowledge about major topics. At the end of the third dialogue Socrates and the other person begin to realize that there is a philosophical point to this question. In the beginning the young man claims that knowledge has to be shown for what it is, such as an arrogant defense mechanism to hide his ignorance from himself and others. In order to end the issue of ignorance between each other, they make many hypotheses to discover the truth. Although many agreed with Socrates, other did not. He was put on trial for impiety, teaching false doctrines, and corrupting the youth. Palmer (2014) is saying that “when one achieves knowledge, one achieves human excellence also known as arte and one becomes am excellent human being” (p.32). Socrates has been looking for this his whole life, but has confused him. He obviously does not know, so he is an ignorant person. During the trial he told the court that he “knew nothing