Summary Of Socrates

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At the end of book three Socrates specks of first persuading the rulers and soldiers, then the rest of the city, that all that they have learned was false and that they were born under the earth. He would say that the land is their mother and they must protect it. He also said that at birth people have metals mixed in their botties which gives them certain statuses, and though they produce offspring they can sometimes produce other metals than that what they are. Socrates then says guardians will have no personal wealth and will live in houses given to them.
In book four Adeimantus makes a point to Socrates, saying that the guardians will not be happy and that the only explanation is that it’s their fault for being born into that life. Socratese responds with that they are not concerned with the happiness of one man, but the happiness of the city as a whole. He later adds that there
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Adeimantus then ask Socrates, “how will the city make war with no money?”.

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