Justice In Glaucon's Three Kinds Of Goods

Superior Essays
In an attempt to amass an overall consensus of justice being desirable as a benefit to the health of the soul, and the necessity placed on maintaining its ideals as a virtue (as expressed by Socrates to resolve Thrasymachus's definition); Glaucon extends his argument of justice to include the concept of the Three Kinds of Goods. As explained, all goods can be divided into three classes: as a mere means such as physical labor, as an end akin to joy, and as both a means and an end comparable to maintaining knowledge (Plato 32 [II]). Each assertion made by Glaucon, is an attempt to solicit the most authentic form of what justice is and to determine which kind of good it perpetuates.
Although an advocate for the belief that justice is coveted both as a means and an end, Glaucon alludes to the fact that most individuals classify justice under the first group: justice is no more than a mere means. He continues
…show more content…
In this model, both justice and injustice have been forgotten, and it is not until Glaucon’s suggestion of luxuries and opulence that these contrasting ideals seem to come into perspective. This alludes to the notion that when wants, such as luxuries and desires, are introduced into the city, is when the concept of injustice is introduced. By creating circumstances that lead others to develop jealousy and greed, it ultimately stimulates the manipulation of unjust acts. Due to this realization, Socrates has created a just city that is only based on needs and diminishes the idea of wants. Therefore, he concludes that justice within a city is a means and an end and preserves the duty of the citizens to themselves as well as others. The intent of this conclusion is to profess the importance of not committing unjust acts to gain worldly advantage over

Related Documents

  • Superior Essays

    Plato’s Position on Justice in Comparison to Dante and Machiavelli Plato asserts his position on justice throughout “The Republic.” His views constitute a model for how society should behave based on the values presented by Socrates in the dialogue. From Plato’s teachings we can infer that to establish justice, we must establish several principles in our lives including proper education, moderation, and courage. Although Plato describes how to live a just life through the metaphorical creation of a city, as opposed to focusing on the individual or going about the concept in a more abstract manner, he also asserts that justice is the quality of the soul, and a soul can only be pure if temptations are ignored. Socrates concludes that education and obedience are parallels.…

    • 1281 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Superior Essays
  • Improved Essays

    After Socrates, the protagonist in Plato’s Republic, refutes a description of justice similar to the traditional poetic view of justice made by a man named Cephalus, Thrasymachus, a well-known sophist, enters into the discussion of justice with Socrates. Thrasymachus asserts, “I proclaim that justice is nothing else than the interest of the stronger” (Plato, Republic I, 338 C). For Thrasymachus, justice is only revealed through the interests of the stronger party. Whatever the stronger party dictates as being good for itself, the stronger party, is what justice is. To further elaborate on his claim, Thrasymachus uses examples of cities governed by different ruling bodies.…

    • 1179 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Superior Essays

    The idea is that rulers make the laws in their own best interests, and adherence to those laws is what constitutes justice for the individual. Socrates leaps at this opportunity to further his discussion on the subject of justice in book one: what it is, and whether or not it pays to be just. In this essay I will clarify Thrasymachus’…

    • 2199 Words
    • 9 Pages
    Superior Essays
  • Improved Essays

    What Socrates is trying explain is that justice can be more than the consequence. It is a good that will make you happier let your soul live well. It is a virtue in allowing to better the…

    • 1228 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Improved Essays

    In Plato’s dialogue Gorgias, Socrates argues against Polus an ancient Greek orator, that tyrants and orators do not, in fact do what they want, instead they do what they see fit. As a result of this claim, Socrates believes tyrants and orators have the least power in their cities. This paper will primarily argue Socrates’s views through the definition of power, who holds the “real” power, that some things are inherently bad, and that there are different views of morality. The argument that Socrates sets forth states “If a person does whatever he sees most fit to do when he lacks intelligence, is this still ‘having power?’”…

    • 1029 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Great Essays

    In Books II-IV of Plato’s Republic, Socrates creates an ideal polis, and in doing so finds justice in the soul. The two foundational principles of the ideal city that Socrates creates are self-sufficiency and one-person-one-art, referred to today as specialization. Individual people are not self-sufficient, so the citizens of the city must take up a profession and trade with each other. Socrates and his companions are successful in their search for justice, and are able to reach the answer by considering the classes and their education in an ideal state. Citizens of the ideal city are not able to rely exclusively on themselves, nor are they able to practice a multitude of crafts.…

    • 1869 Words
    • 8 Pages
    Great Essays
  • Great Essays

    n Plato 's Republic, an analogy is struck between the state of the city and the state of the soul. While, in the latter case, a well balanced, or just, soul is one that is commanded by reason, and in which the spirited and appetitive parts of the soul play subordinate roles, a well balanced, or just, city is one in which the rulers are commanded by reason, the soldiers by spirit, and the laymen by appetites. The difficulty implicit in this state of affairs is that it does not appear, on reflection, that the so-called just city is truly just, since it would make better sense to say that a just city is one in which everyone has a just soul, rather than to anatomize the city in precisely the manner that the soul is, and on that basis call the…

    • 2077 Words
    • 9 Pages
    Great Essays
  • Improved Essays

    Justice is related to wisdom, courage and temperance as harmony produced when each of the three parts functions…

    • 713 Words
    • 3 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Improved Essays

    Plato also gives his own idea of justice, which individually, is a human virtue that makes a person…

    • 998 Words
    • 4 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Improved Essays

    Plato In The Republic, Plato acts as a scribe and recounts a particular evening that his teach Socrates had spent with his fellow Greeks, discussing various political topics. In the book, Plato outlines what Socrates’ thought justice was, and what a perfectly just city (the “city of speech”) would be like. One of the foundational principles in Plato’s just city is specialization. Each person does what they are best at, and don’t meddle in another’s affairs.…

    • 1193 Words
    • 5 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Improved Essays

    The following paper will be discussing Plato's perspective on the philosopher-kings and what makes them the best rulers. I will use examples from the text Plato, Republic to describe Plato's ideal city which will demonstrate Plato's true definition of justice and why no city can be just unless it is ruled by a philosopher-king. Through explaining Plato's ideal city this will aid in concluding why Plato believes philosopher-kings are the best fit to rule in order to truly have a just society. In the text Plato, Republic Plato is discussing human behaviour, most prominently the trait of justice.…

    • 1255 Words
    • 6 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Superior Essays

    In the Republic, Plato discusses and relates the three topics that are central to one lives, education, justice, and happiness. Through his definitions of these three topics, he considers how a society can achieve the proper education, justice, and happiness leading to his understanding of human nature. Plato addresses the close relation between being just and happy to the education received in society. The relationship between education, justice, and happiness depends on Plato’s understanding of these topics. Specifically with the relations of justice and happiness, the relationship is just as much dependent on the true sense of the idea as it is with Socrates rejection of the false claims.…

    • 1741 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Superior Essays
  • Improved Essays

    Glaucon Justice Analysis

    • 1584 Words
    • 7 Pages

    It is better to be just, for people will be in a better situation, rather than if they will choose injustice as a way to act. In Republic’s book two, Glaucon sets up a model to demonstrate what justice is. In his model, he differentiates between four theoretical situations that could possibly occur. The first scenario is where an individual, as well as, society act justly towards one another. In such case, an individual…

    • 1584 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Improved Essays
  • Great Essays

    1. Why should we moral , according to Glaucon? Do you agree or disagree? Explain why?…

    • 1406 Words
    • 6 Pages
    Great Essays
  • Great Essays

    In Plato’s ‘Republic’, happiness and justice are deeply questioned and analyzed as being interconnected. The broadest assumption of a happy person is one who is most wealthy and with very much power. This is almost an unspoken truth, however, does it really work out? One of the most famous Greek philosophers was Socrates, a son of a stonemason who encouraged discussion among many elite, powerful men. In the Republic written by Plato, the idea of a happy person is dissected thoroughly by Socrates and explained.…

    • 1622 Words
    • 7 Pages
    Great Essays