Euthyphro And Bacchae Comparison

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The Bacchae, written by Euripides, and Euthyphro, recorded by Plato, are both centered around the issue of piety and what constitutes piety. The Bacchae delves a little further into piety by also elaborating on the repercussions of being impious. Both works were written around 400 BCE and share a common thread in regards to attempting to convert people to their respective ways of thinking. However it can certainly be concluded that the two works take very different approaches in order to gain followers. While focusing on the issue of piety, the Bacchae and Euthyphro also answer the question of conduct or rather, “how should I live?”. Although both the Bacchae and Euthyphro answer the problem of conduct, it can be argued that the conclusion Socrates comes to in Euthyphro is far more appealing to the masses, when compared to the Bacchae’s conclusion.
The way the information is presented in Euthyphro and Bacchae is unique to each work. The information in Euthyphro is presented in a dialogue form with Socrates talking with an elderly man named Euthyphro outside of a courthouse, whereas the information
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Despite their differences the majority of their content is very similar. Through the dialogue between Socrates and Euthyphro, the issue of piety arises and then is elaborated on in terms of devotion to the gods and how one should conduct themselves in everyday life. Similarly in the play Bacchae, the topic of devotion and piety are also explored. While their topics are the same, it is clear that by the end of both works, their effects are certainly different. Euthyphro is a piece leaning more towards exploration whereas, Bacchae is a cautionary tale. Due to the fact that Bacchae does take such a graphic route in order to answer the question of conduct, one could argue that people would be more inclined to live piously based of of Euthyphro rather than

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