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what do you want to ask a pt with hx of SOB (COPD)
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1. time course: progressively worse over a few days or sudden onset
2. Associated sx; CHest pain 3. Trauma, aspiration, underlying lung disease, infections 4. MEDS 5. History of similiar problem |
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what can be some causes for SOB hx
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1. trauma
2. aspiration 3. underlying disease 4. infections/exposure to infections |
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what are some conditions that go along with SOB
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asthma
emphysema CHF |
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what things do you need to look at for a pt with cc SOB
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1. AIRWAY- is it protected. can he speak
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wht are the generals to look for with SOB
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appearance,
mental status vitals ability to talk |
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should we look at a pts skin if thier cc is SOB
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look for cyanosis at fingers and lips
*also look for edema |
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should we listen to heart with cc SOB
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ALWAYS
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whats on the lung exam for pt with CC SOB
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1. breath sounds
2. wheeze- asthma 3. use of accessory mm 4. Peripheral edema |
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for a pt with cc SOB do we intubate
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depends.
intubate if: 1. pt cant clear secretions 2. decreased/deteriorating ABG 3. Acute respiratory failure: abnomral ventilation, diffusion, perfusion, control of breathing, O2 drop CO2 high |
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what is hypercapnic respiratory failure:
what is nonhypercapnic heart failure |
increased CO2, normal/decreaseed O2
decreased O2, normal CO2 **do several ABG |
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what are 7 big ddx for SOB
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1. Asthma
2. Bronchitis 3. emphysema 4. pneumonia 5. pnumothorax 6. PE 7. CHF |
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whats asthma
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cycles of wheezing stim by a specific stimuli
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bronchitis
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cough daily, productive 3 mo-1year
common in smokers, old men *excess mucous causes poor ventilation (low O2, high Co2) *leads to polycysthemia, Pulm HTN --> cor pulmonale, Hx: dyspnea, smoking, TONS of sputum PE: blue. cachexic, wheeze, rales, decreased breath sounds |
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what does this describe, an old man who is a smoker who has had a cought for like 6 months and is always coughing junk up
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bronchitis
he might be a little blue and a little cachexic |
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tell me about emphysema
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associated with SMOKING. (rare but can be alpha 1 antutrypsin defecit)
flat diaphragm men **when alveoli are are enlarged and walls break down (distal to terminal bronchiole) PE barrel chest wheeze decreased breath sounds, flath diaphragm |
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an old barrel chested man with flatened diaphragms
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emphysema
**sMOKER |
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tell me about pneumonia
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1. all ages, dangerous at extremes
2. Commonin DM, EtOH, immunodeficient *causative organism in sputum/blood cultures **aspiration pneumonia by an anerobic organism (other are areobic) Hx: fever, cough, sputum, hemoptyosis Egophony (E to A) decreased breath sounds, increased rematus |
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in a person with a productive cough wat can help you distinguish bronchitis from pneumonia
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1. Bronchitis, cachexic smoker. blue. wheeze, decreased breath sounds
2. Pneumonia: any age, DM, EtOH, immundodeficient. Egophony, fever, fremetis |
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tell me about pneumothorax
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*common in ppl with underlying lung disease (asthma, COPD, malignancy) can be sporadic in tall thin males
**SUDDEN onset **spontaneous rupture of a pulm or subpleural BLEB *UL breath sounds, JVD, tracheal deviation |
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what disease is associated with an empheysematous bleb
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pneumothorax when the bleb ruptures
SUDDEN sob, pain, UL breath soudns, tracheal deviation |
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tell me about PE
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old, surgery recently, malignancy, prolonged immobilization, preggo, clot formed on port
*most from legs Large: hypotension, shock Small: dyspnea, pleuritic pain, hypoxia SUDDEN onset SOB, sharp pleuritic chest pain, hemopytysis, anxiety, syncope is rare PE tachy cardic, cyanotic, febrile |
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what is HR and temp with PE
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HIGH!
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whats CHF
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old, hx heart disease. cardiac risk factors
*L vent dysfx leads to velvated venous pressure and fluid in LE. fluid can back up into lungs can be caused by increase na, MI, tachydysrhythemias, Hx: couth, orthopenia, PND< chest pain, risk factors Rales, wheeze, JVD, gallop, edema, diaphoretic |
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what disease
PE: rales, wheexe, edema, JVD, sweathy, gallop |
CHF
Cough orthopnea, PDN, cheast pain, risk factors |
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what is the Aa gradiant
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defiens hypoxia
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ok so be sure to do the following on SOB
1. CBC 2. CXR 3. FEV1/PEFR 4. Gram Stain 5 |
1. increased WBC is infectious pneumonia (stress and b agonist will increase WBC)
2. flat diaphragm with emphysema, also a barrel chest (increased AP diameter) . increaesd bronchovascular markings 3. FEV1/PEFR: LOW, improve with b agonist. shows disease is reversible 4. infection can aggregate COPD |
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tell me about oxygen and COPD
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in COPD CO2 retention is a problem
**thier respiratory drive is from hypoxia, NOT CO2 like normal **so if you over O2 we can decreae their need to breathe- lethargy is the first sigh |
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if our our pt with COPD is on O2 adn becomes lethargic what do we do
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STOP/DEcrease O2
**their drive to breath is based on hypoxia, if we correct this we take away their drive to breath adn they stop!!!! BAD **use a venturi mask to monitor O2 |
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whats the dig in giving o2 with venturi maks vs nasal prongs
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venturi- better to monitor (good for COPD who needs hypoxemia to breath)
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tell be about b agonists
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allbuterol, stim bronchodilation
**can increase WBC |
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steroids
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good to decrease inflammation as in asthma
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do we use anticholinergics in pts with COPD
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ya, along with b angonists to open airways
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what is theophylline
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used in chronic COPD pts but is not a mainstay, need to monitor levels
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what OMT is good for COPD
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rib raise
postural drainiage lymphatic pump restirction in throacic motion restored as needed |
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when to tx with AB
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when its pneumonia, + cultures or high index of suscipion use emperical
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