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what do you want to ask a pt with hx of SOB (COPD)
1. time course: progressively worse over a few days or sudden onset

2. Associated sx; CHest pain

3. Trauma, aspiration, underlying lung disease, infections

4. MEDS

5. History of similiar problem
what can be some causes for SOB hx
1. trauma
2. aspiration
3. underlying disease
4. infections/exposure to infections
what are some conditions that go along with SOB
asthma
emphysema
CHF
what things do you need to look at for a pt with cc SOB
1. AIRWAY- is it protected. can he speak
wht are the generals to look for with SOB
appearance,
mental status
vitals
ability to talk
should we look at a pts skin if thier cc is SOB
look for cyanosis at fingers and lips

*also look for edema
should we listen to heart with cc SOB
ALWAYS
whats on the lung exam for pt with CC SOB
1. breath sounds
2. wheeze- asthma
3. use of accessory mm
4. Peripheral edema
for a pt with cc SOB do we intubate
depends.
intubate if:
1. pt cant clear secretions
2. decreased/deteriorating ABG
3. Acute respiratory failure: abnomral ventilation, diffusion, perfusion, control of breathing, O2 drop CO2 high
what is hypercapnic respiratory failure:

what is nonhypercapnic heart failure
increased CO2, normal/decreaseed O2

decreased O2, normal CO2

**do several ABG
what are 7 big ddx for SOB
1. Asthma
2. Bronchitis
3. emphysema
4. pneumonia
5. pnumothorax
6. PE
7. CHF
whats asthma
cycles of wheezing stim by a specific stimuli
bronchitis
cough daily, productive 3 mo-1year
common in smokers, old men
*excess mucous causes poor ventilation (low O2, high Co2)
*leads to polycysthemia, Pulm HTN --> cor pulmonale,

Hx: dyspnea, smoking, TONS of sputum

PE: blue. cachexic, wheeze, rales, decreased breath sounds
what does this describe, an old man who is a smoker who has had a cought for like 6 months and is always coughing junk up
bronchitis

he might be a little blue and a little cachexic
tell me about emphysema
associated with SMOKING. (rare but can be alpha 1 antutrypsin defecit)
flat diaphragm
men

**when alveoli are are enlarged and walls break down (distal to terminal bronchiole)

PE barrel chest wheeze decreased breath sounds, flath diaphragm
an old barrel chested man with flatened diaphragms
emphysema

**sMOKER
tell me about pneumonia
1. all ages, dangerous at extremes
2. Commonin DM, EtOH, immunodeficient

*causative organism in sputum/blood cultures

**aspiration pneumonia by an anerobic organism (other are areobic)

Hx: fever, cough, sputum, hemoptyosis

Egophony (E to A) decreased breath sounds, increased rematus
in a person with a productive cough wat can help you distinguish bronchitis from pneumonia
1. Bronchitis, cachexic smoker. blue. wheeze, decreased breath sounds

2. Pneumonia: any age, DM, EtOH, immundodeficient. Egophony, fever, fremetis
tell me about pneumothorax
*common in ppl with underlying lung disease (asthma, COPD, malignancy) can be sporadic in tall thin males

**SUDDEN onset

**spontaneous rupture of a pulm or subpleural BLEB

*UL breath sounds, JVD, tracheal deviation
what disease is associated with an empheysematous bleb
pneumothorax when the bleb ruptures

SUDDEN sob, pain,

UL breath soudns, tracheal deviation
tell me about PE
old, surgery recently, malignancy, prolonged immobilization, preggo, clot formed on port

*most from legs

Large: hypotension, shock
Small: dyspnea, pleuritic pain, hypoxia

SUDDEN onset SOB, sharp pleuritic chest pain, hemopytysis, anxiety, syncope is rare

PE tachy cardic, cyanotic, febrile
what is HR and temp with PE
HIGH!
whats CHF
old, hx heart disease. cardiac risk factors

*L vent dysfx leads to velvated venous pressure and fluid in LE. fluid can back up into lungs

can be caused by increase na, MI, tachydysrhythemias,

Hx: couth, orthopenia, PND< chest pain, risk factors

Rales, wheeze, JVD, gallop, edema, diaphoretic
what disease

PE: rales, wheexe, edema, JVD, sweathy, gallop
CHF

Cough orthopnea, PDN, cheast pain, risk factors
what is the Aa gradiant
defiens hypoxia
ok so be sure to do the following on SOB

1. CBC
2. CXR
3. FEV1/PEFR
4. Gram Stain
5
1. increased WBC is infectious pneumonia (stress and b agonist will increase WBC)

2. flat diaphragm with emphysema, also a barrel chest (increased AP diameter) . increaesd bronchovascular markings

3. FEV1/PEFR: LOW, improve with b agonist. shows disease is reversible

4. infection can aggregate COPD
tell me about oxygen and COPD
in COPD CO2 retention is a problem

**thier respiratory drive is from hypoxia, NOT CO2 like normal

**so if you over O2 we can decreae their need to breathe- lethargy is the first sigh
if our our pt with COPD is on O2 adn becomes lethargic what do we do
STOP/DEcrease O2

**their drive to breath is based on hypoxia, if we correct this we take away their drive to breath adn they stop!!!! BAD

**use a venturi mask to monitor O2
whats the dig in giving o2 with venturi maks vs nasal prongs
venturi- better to monitor (good for COPD who needs hypoxemia to breath)
tell be about b agonists
allbuterol, stim bronchodilation

**can increase WBC
steroids
good to decrease inflammation as in asthma
do we use anticholinergics in pts with COPD
ya, along with b angonists to open airways
what is theophylline
used in chronic COPD pts but is not a mainstay, need to monitor levels
what OMT is good for COPD
rib raise
postural drainiage
lymphatic pump
restirction in throacic motion restored as needed
when to tx with AB
when its pneumonia, + cultures or high index of suscipion use emperical